I'm painfully aware when I do seminars that much of what I teach flies in the face of so-called "conventional wisdom". But the "systems" that are being taught these days are systems for fast high-drive border collies. That's completely understandable because these guys are winning national championships, getting on the world team, and generally kicking everybody's butt in competition.
Many people will fail or languish in a second tier class by trying to use a handling system designed by a fast high-drive border collie... when their dogs aren't actually fast high-drive border collies.
I am highly suspicious of "flavor of the week" training. For example, every two or three months the handler/trainer might read an article in Clean Run about some new hoity toity contact training method. So, because their contacts aren't perfect, they dump their old system and pick up a new system. And in a couple months another article comes out and they dump the system they'd newly adopted and try yet something else. Then, before you know it, the dog who had a happy and graceful performance of the A-frame though maybe misses the down contact 1 in 8 times... has a dreadful slow performance, acts confused, gives refusals... and still misses the down contact 1 in 8 times.
I'm very aware when I'm out in the world teaching that I'm introducing something new (hoity toity??) and may contradict the system teaching to which many handlers have been exposed. And I will tell people that if what they are doing is working, then it is right; (though very often I can show them something that works better, smarter, and faster.)
You should note that I am a handler trainer; and that is the focus of my seminar work. Don't get me wrong, if we have to talk about dog training, if we have to do dog training exercises, then we will do. But my focus has ever been teaching the handler to step up to be a member of the team to understand what his 50% of the work is... and how to do it. We must also recognize that there are dogs of a type and that the system the handler uses for his dog would be appropriate for that type of dog. There is no such thing as "one-size-fits-all" in agility. Systems for fast high-drive dog... will only fit fast high-drive dogs.
Playing Around #1
Boy oh boy oh boy! When you put up the teacup equipment with challenges comparable to what the big fast dogs face in the big dog venues... it looks very scary. I note when we do these technical exercises we’ll have a fairly high success rate; somewhere in the 70% range. Americans do everything the hard way! And, we're good at it.
It's interesting to note, in this exercise that the most common fault is at jump #4 because the handler doesn't step up as the dog comes out of the pipe tunnel[1] to help create the approach to jump #4. Indeed, we will have the same error at jump #6.
To back up a sec, I also use this exercise to teach the vee-set opening. I remind my students that the handler is the architect of the dog's path. The handler doesn't really have to accept a corner on the landing side of jump #2 because putting the corner between jumps #1 and #2 creates a smarter path, completely taking the dummy jump out of the picture.
I also often have to teach handlers how to use counter rotation (the old RFP) to draw the dog to the closer obstacle when in the body magnet position on a discrimination problem. The fun thing about the TDAA is that the handler had better be spot on with his timing because the action is coming fast and furious.
Playing Around #2
If I really have to make a point about the power of counter rotation (the RFP) this is an excellent exercise to do it. I specify to my students that they must make the approach to jump #3 with dog on right ostensibly for a Back Cross or Tandem Turn at jump #3. The handler should take the control position (right on the plane of the dummy jump) then counter rotate and face and move the dog off to his left, and then Cross back when the dogs nose gets to the plane of the jump which is the first moment that the dog is clear of the dummy jump.
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Re: Day 25 – Playing Around
Hi Bud!
We did the Playing around #1 tonight. Since we had all size dogs we used full sized equipment and increased the spacing by about 1/3. It was a hoot. First we all tried it as we ordinarily would, you know, the inefficient way. Then we all tried it with the RFP after jump 2. Then some used front crosses, some blinds after #4 and either a rear cross or tandem cross after #5. We all had fun and learned something. The dogs were all patient as we learned how best to steer them. We had a maltese, 2 BC's, 2 McNabs, a sheltie and a Pit bull/terrier mix.
Trying to think out of the box in Grants Pass OR
Thank you!!
handling systems
You said: "But the "systems" that are being taught these days are systems for fast high-drive border collies. That’s completely understandable because these guys are winning national championships, getting on the world team, and generally kicking everybody’s butt in competition"
Only someone that does not understand my handling system would make such a statement. My handling system is appropriate for all types of dog; the only limitation is that the *handler* must be able to move. But even if the handler has mobility issues, knowledge of how the system works is still useful. The system can be modified to meet the needs of just about any dog/handler team.
I would be happy to send you the information the next time I schedule a foundation seminar so that you can attend and become more educated about my system. If you still feel that "the systems" that are being taught these days are systems for fast high-drive border collies" after attending, I will be surprised.
Regards,
Linda Mecklenburg
Handling Systems
Actually Linda, I follow your writing and teaching with great interest as I find you one of the great natural handlers in our sport. I often tell this story of how I was judging down in Georgia one weekend where there were thirty some odd ripping fast Border Collies. Yet the weekend became a shoot-out between Terry Smorch and Linda Mecklenburg. "Were their dogs actually faster?" I ask, "Keener workers? Not at all."
You'll recall that after the weekend I sent you a note admiring the way you used bold movement forward of your dog to solve some of my most wicked riddles.
So I go back to my premise that the "Systems" (I want you to think about the *other* 30 Border Collies at the GA trial) being taught today are for high-drive fast Border Collies. What we see are systems of studied sloth, compensatory training (teaching the dog to compensate for inherent flaws in the handler) and frankly requiring the dog to be 90% of the team.
The difficulty with these systems is that any dog with a handler who is dedicated to being 50% of the team will step up and beat them. So, you see, my generalized statement about the state of affairs in our world was not directed at you at all. Just so you know.
Regards,
Bud Houston
dogagility.org
handling systems
Hi Bud,
I've scheduled two foundation "handling system" seminars at the end of the year (not far from you). Let me know if you'd like more information.
Linda
Handling Systems
Hey Linda,
Hell, I don't need a damn seminar. Just tell me.
You know, the only agility seminar I've ever been to was to go down for a camp in Florida with Stuart Mah. He's pretty fun to train with because he has a "take no prisoners" attitude about handling.
From a philosophical point of view I'd like to teach handlers to talk "dog" rather than teaching a "dog" to understand a system (a thing I call "compensatory" training). Now don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't believe in training the dog, and even to certain compensatory performances, that's fairly fundamental. But a good handler should be able to step up and run just about anybody's dog.
I'll send you a copy of my book (Agility Chi - the Art of the Natural Handler) after I get around to writing it. lol
Bud Houston
dogagility.org